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Post by Mira O'Halloran on Jul 11, 2008 5:11:49 GMT -5
Ah, that makes sense. Another part of my ignorance has been vanquished this day! I actually like the Tir, even if it does sound like tear. I believe His Majesty is referring to Tyr, the god of war in the Scandinavian Mythologies. And yes, i agree with King Ari's point!
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Post by Rook on Aug 3, 2008 14:48:45 GMT -5
After some talk with the Dean about the true dynamics of international economics I have come to the conclusion that the currency issue is not to be. Originally I was under the impression that we might be able to come to a middle ground between Uantir's disinclination to have a currency and the 'game' to be played with other micro-nationals.
The problem is that if we set up a dual economy, a barter system internally to achieve the wants of the Uantirian people, and an international currency with which would be used to trade with other countries, the international currency would never be worth anything. If Uantir isn't using Uantir's currency there's no reason for any other country to put worth on it because it wouldn't buy them anything in Uantir where the money isn't used. We have to use the currency for it to be worth anything. And since I know no one wants to use a currency in Uantir, it would be a waste of time and resources to create a currency that we didn't use. So, unless someone wants to design a currency merely as a cultural amusement, I consider, pending further comment, the issue closed and the production of currency declined.
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Post by Rook on Sept 29, 2011 8:50:22 GMT -5
So I've re-read this entire thread, and what it really came down to was that we, as people (the Aristocrats) don't need a currency, because when we were looking at Uantir as a group of half a dozen people, we were just too small.
Since this conversation took place there has been a radical change in perception relating to Uantir and its population. Since we've embraced the concept of a simulation, and each aristocrat also represents a territory's population of virtual citizens, an actual currency is no longer that rediculous. Then again, a currency is incompatible with a true barter economic system.
Thoughts?
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Post by Rook on Oct 24, 2011 11:18:23 GMT -5
Upon added contemplation, not having a currency is truly incompatible with creating a large scale political simulation. But in its very essence currency is simply representative barter, money is used in lieu of goods out of conveniencce. We get this impression that money is the only thing with value, but in reality no one has to use money if they have more important things to trade.
That being said it's time to re-open discussions on what the currency should be, demarcation, type, symbols etc.
When this thread started the term 'Tir' and 'Uan' were being tossed about, any other ideas? We need multiple names of course, seeing as one's got to make change for the other.
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Post by Rook on Nov 29, 2011 17:05:49 GMT -5
After doing some research it seems that there is documentation relating to currency minted in the pre-roman celtic areas of Ireland and Britain (one of the cultures that Uantir is founded upon.) They used coins of gold and silver called 'Starters' and also had less valuable coins of copper and tin called "Potin." Images used stamped onto starters included horse, boar, and wheat. [source]As for appearance, style and demarcation there is an interesting article on ancient Irish 'Ring Money.' According to the article the ring money was used as hack silver and assayed at every exchange, but that doesn't have to be so, we could simply ressurect the appearance in our coinage (though it's difficult to re-create in larger values predicating the need for paper money.) [source]
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