A Hello from Your Western Neighbor, Ergonia

[thadeuslangejr]

Your Excellency,

On behalf of the Ergonian Governing Council I am visiting here
in order to bring forth the matter of Ergonia, a nation which
lies to the west of Uantir on the MCS map, diplomatically
recognizing Uantir, and vice-versa, as well as the matter of
opening diplomatic relations.

Our internet website is located here:

bastionunion.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=1093

Signed,

Thadeus Lange Jr
Chair
The Governing Council of The Independent Realm of Ergonia

[Rook]

Welcome to Uantir Thadeus.

I don't go on the Bastion Union forums, so tell me a bit ore about Erggonia, do you have a wiki or other site?

[thadeuslangejr]

Your Matchless Grace,

Our national soccer team has a listing on the Micras Wiki:

micras.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ergonia_national_football_team

We are on the SCUE bank as well.

We use Bastion as our main website at this time.

I hope this answers your question,

Thadeus Lange Jr

[Rook]

It answers some of them.

Uantir maintains an open and standing recognition of the sovereignty and validity of all nations with claims on Micras. Do you have any specific diplomatic goals?

[thadeuslangejr]

Your Matchless Grace,

Our main specific diplomatic goal is building a friendship
between two nations.

We thank you, Your Matchless Grace, for stating that Uantir
maintains open recognition of the sovereignty and validity
of all nations with claims on Micras.

Likewise, Ergonia would like to recognize Uantir officially.
We would prefer to do this by a Treaty of Recognition and
Friendship.

Your Matchless Grace, would Uantir be willing to sign a
Treaty of Recognition and Friendship with Ergonia, provided,
of course, that the treaty is fully acceptable to Uantir?

Regards,

Thadeus Lange Jr

[Rook]

I'm happy to read anything proposed.

[thadeuslangejr]

Your Matchless Grace,

Below is a draft treaty of friendship and
between our two nations:

A TREATY OF FRIENDSHIP AND RECOGNITION BETWEEN UANTIR AND ERGONIA

AFFIRMING the spirit of friendship and cooperation on which relations
between the two nations are based, and wishing to place their relations
on an closer and more solid foundation;

AFFIRMING that both nations formally recognize and respect each other
as independent and sovereign nations, including the sovereign territories
of each other: websites, message boards and other real or virtual property
under direct or indirect control of their respective governments, as
proclaimed by them and as long as respecting the sovereignty of each
other under Intermicronational law and convention;

ACKNOWLEDGING the importance to each nation of the relationship and
the close connection between them;

RESOLVED to evaluate and pursue opportunities for their governments
and their peoples to work closer together in a spirit of understanding
on matters of mutual interest;

CONVINCED of the importance of creating, developing and maintaining
relations on an equitable and mutually advantageous basis in a long-term
perspective;

RECOGNIZING that cooperation between the two nations should have
their common interest in the prosperity and welfare of both nations;

RECOGNIZING full diplomatic immunity of The Chair of the Governing
Council of the Independent Realm of Ergonia; and full diplomatic
immunity of The Lord Protector of Uantir;

AFFIRMING that each contracting party has the right to appoint an
ambassador to the other contracting party, where each contracting
party is allowed to demand immediate removal of the ambassador
at any time since arrival and without notice;

HAVE RESOLVED to conclude this treaty and for that purpose sign to
indicate acceptance as follows:


____________________________________________________
THE KINGDOM OF UANTIR



____________________________________________________
THE INDEPENDENT REALM OF ERGONIA

If there is anything, Your Chivalrous Eminence, that
you would like changed, let me know. If not, you may
sign the treaty, and then we will like-wise do so.

Regards,

Thadeus Lange Jr

[Rook]

Uantir does not align itself under, nor has it signed itself to (officially or honorifically) the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.

I am, however, going to assume that Ergonia uses the phrase "Diplomatic Immunity" in the modern sense as established by it. How does Ergonia define diplomatic immunity?

[thadeuslangejr]

Your Matchless Grace,

Ergonia defines diplomatic immunity as giving the
diplomatically-immune person protection from any
lawsuit or prosecution under Ergonia's laws, although
the person could still hypothetically be expelled
from Ergonia.

If this is unacceptable, we can remove the language
on diplomatic immunity if you would prefer.

Regards,

Thadeus Lange Jr

[Rook]

Everyone is accountable for their actions. I expect a diplomat or ambassador to do enough research on Uantiri culture to avoid any major cultural friction that would result in litigation or incarceration. It is the expectation and the purpose of dignitaries to learn the customs and language and government of the country they are assigned to. Without that kind of assimilation and research, how can they represent themselves in a way the country they are working in can understand and relate to? I hold my emissaries to that standard as well.

[thadeuslangejr]

Your Matchless Grace,

I have removed the language regarding diplomatic
immunity from the treaty.

A TREATY OF FRIENDSHIP AND RECOGNITION BETWEEN UANTIR AND ERGONIA

AFFIRMING the spirit of friendship and cooperation on which relations
between the two nations are based, and wishing to place their relations
on an closer and more solid foundation;

AFFIRMING that both nations formally recognize and respect each other
as independent and sovereign nations, including the sovereign territories
of each other: websites, message boards and other real or virtual property
under direct or indirect control of their respective governments, as
proclaimed by them and as long as respecting the sovereignty of each
other under Intermicronational law and convention;

ACKNOWLEDGING the importance to each nation of the relationship and
the close connection between them;

RESOLVED to evaluate and pursue opportunities for their governments
and their peoples to work closer together in a spirit of understanding
on matters of mutual interest;

CONVINCED of the importance of creating, developing and maintaining
relations on an equitable and mutually advantageous basis in a long-term
perspective;

RECOGNIZING that cooperation between the two nations should have
their common interest in the prosperity and welfare of both nations;

AFFIRMING that each contracting party has the right to appoint an
ambassador to the other contracting party, where each contracting
party is allowed to demand immediate removal of the ambassador
at any time since arrival and without notice;

HAVE RESOLVED to conclude this treaty and for that purpose sign to
indicate acceptance as follows:


____________________________________________________
THE KINGDOM OF UANTIR



____________________________________________________
THE INDEPENDENT REALM OF ERGONIA

If the treaty is acceptable to Uantir, Uantir may approve it
and you can sign it, Your Majesty, and we will likewise do
so. Otherwise, Your Majesty, please let us know how we
can further modify the treaty to suit your expectations.

Regards,

Thadeus Lange Jr

[thadeuslangejr]

Your Matchless Grace,

I have noticed that there has not been
a reply for a while. Is everything okay?
If there is anything we can do on the
Ergonian side, please let us know.

Regards,

Thadeus Lange Jr

[Rook]

Work, school, family, and the flu, man. I haven't forgotten. But I do have more questions!

AFFIRMING that both nations formally recognize and respect each other
as independent and sovereign nations, including the sovereign territories
of each other: websites, message boards and other real or virtual property
under direct or indirect control of their respective governments, as
proclaimed by them and as long as respecting the sovereignty of each
other under Intermicronational law and convention;

What do you mean 'as proclaimed by them' in this statement. Are you insinuating that an official declaration of all property and territory is required? That's a lot of book keeping that I don't really want to do.

[thadeuslangejr]

Your Majesty,

No, of course not. We would never want to overburden
Uantir's administration with frivolous requirements. If
it pleases you, we have amended the draft to be more
specific with what property we want to be respected:

A TREATY OF FRIENDSHIP AND RECOGNITION BETWEEN UANTIR AND ERGONIA

AFFIRMING the spirit of friendship and cooperation on which relations
between the two nations are based, and wishing to place their relations
on an closer and more solid foundation;

AFFIRMING that both nations formally recognize and respect each other
as independent and sovereign nations, including the sovereign territories
and property of each other: websites, message boards, any treasury monies
deposited into the SCUE banking system, and any land claims approved
by the Micronational Cartographical Society;

ACKNOWLEDGING the importance to each nation of the relationship and
the close connection between them;

RESOLVED to evaluate and pursue opportunities for their governments
and their peoples to work closer together in a spirit of understanding
on matters of mutual interest;

CONVINCED of the importance of creating, developing and maintaining
relations on an equitable and mutually advantageous basis in a long-term
perspective;

RECOGNIZING that cooperation between the two nations should have
their common interest in the prosperity and welfare of both nations;

AFFIRMING that each contracting party has the right to appoint an
ambassador to the other contracting party, where each contracting
party is allowed to demand immediate removal of the ambassador
at any time since arrival and without notice;

HAVE RESOLVED to conclude this treaty and for that purpose sign to
indicate acceptance as follows:


____________________________________________________
THE KINGDOM OF UANTIR



____________________________________________________
THE INDEPENDENT REALM OF ERGONIA

Please let us know if this is acceptable. If it is not,
then we will endeavor to adjust it to meet your
satisfaction.

Signed,

Thadeus Lange Jr

[Rook]

That looks much more refined. I appreciate your ease of accomodation, I understand I'm particular and difficult to work with sometimes.

Understand, before we sign, that this is not a treaty of alliance, and nothing about it compels either nation to take political or military action in aid of or in aggression against another nation. I want to state for the record that Uantir considers this a very formal declaration of recognition and holds it as a valuable promise towards stronger and more committed coordination in the future. We are neighbors after all.

I do want to caution you, that neighbors or no, I don't like the Bastion Union. At its inception it felt like a cult, and it still strikes me as a cloying and anti-independent concept. I will not personally be visiting Ergonia's forums to conduct business, as I don't travel to Bastion territory. If, in the unlikely event that I ever do have another active aristocrat (one who doesn't share my prohibitions against the Bastion Union) who is also interested in being an ambassador, it will be that individual who makes a physical presence on the Ergonia boards.

Also understand that membership in the Bastion Union will always be a barrier to a complete and binding treaty of alliance between Uantir and Ergonia, as I cannot sign an agreement that compels Uantir to use public resources in the aid of a country belonging to an organization I hold in contempt.

As long as that's understood and acceptable, I'm ready to sign.